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Is CommentLuv Selling your Blog Comment Links for Advertisers? Andy Bailey Clearing Things Up

by Hesham on February 1, 2010 in  Talk
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Have you ever tried to read a non-English blog and see what those guys are talking about? It’s really amazing thing, I have been doing this from time to time trying to know what others say, what is the discussions running on other languages, are they blogging about the same stuff we do in English blogs, do they have the same opinions, or they have different way to think about blogging as a tool?! Give it a try and you will discover tones of new ideas from here and there.

Who don’t know CommentLuv?

It’s known as the most interaction tool between bloggers, and the most famous Wordpress plugin in Wordpress lovers street, and it went more far than that, CommentLuv entered Bloggers Blogspot world after so many members requested to Andy Bailey the founder of CommentLuv to make it available for their blog platform, and here is a video explain for you how to setup CommentLuv to Blogger using JS-kit comments made by Andy. I must say that there is so many reasons to love CommentLuv blogs, most bloggers and webmasters who is looking for building links and traffic understand what I mean, and there is no way to know what’s on Andy’s mind and what he will come up with, he is a full of surprises guy.

Can we make money from CommentLuv and Comluv?

The answer is YES, there is more than one way to make money on ComLuv, and I recommend you take a look to ComLuv affiliate program, you can earn money by driving new members to signup and buy any of ComLuv paid services or advertise on ComLuv community, I actually got paid once for being the highest affiliates to ComLuv last October, it was awesome to receive this unexpected payment!

Is CommentLuv making any money from your blog?

Now! We know we can make money from ComLuv, but what we don’t know is CommentLuv making or welling to make money from CommentLuv enabled blogs?!

I found a blog post in a non-English language talking about some CommentLuv server errors happen when commenting on CommentLuv enabled blog, I have translated the post to read it, and I discovered interesting thing happened with the guy who wrote it, he was telling that CommentLuv server sometimes return a wrong link, and this made the owner of that blog think of these two possibilities:

  1. CommentLuv is taking advantage of his blog and displaying ad links instead of his blog links!
  2. CommentLuv sever is being exploited to change the link

And the interesting thing was not in the post it self, it was in the comments on that post, it was the only place on the internet to find an answer of Latief’s question about the error he keep getting when he comment on CommentLuv enabled blogs which is “bad juju just happened”, and I found an expected answer as this maybe a server error reflect this message to the user. This is why I always talk about paying attention to blog comments, it is the meat of the bone, and has the real butter of the post sometimes!

So.. anyways,we are now talking about the bad behavior and strange links in CommentLuv that could happen while commenting (This never happen with me personally before) and what if CommentLuv is making money from showing different links instead of the original feed links that it has to show (and I don’t think this something Andy would do)!

Andy Bailey is with us today?!

And because I can not and I don’t have an answer to this question, I thought to ask Andy to give us a short statement about CommentLuv and ComLuv and make things clear to all bloggers. So I had three question to ask him and he was kind enough to answer them. So let’s see what Andy have told to us!

hesham_zebidaHey Andy, I have sent you the link of the post on the non-English (Vietnamese) blog that tells about the CommentLuv server issue and the errors that happen, there no better way but to ask the person who is in charge and behind CommentLuv, so what you can tell us about it?

andy_baileyFirst things first, the Vietnamese site post. I translated it with Google and I can see exactly what went on.

This was happening around the time the server was having real trouble with the amount of requests it was receiving. Every time a blog with CommentLuv on it gets spammed, it means my server has to try and find the feed at every site submitted on the spam comments and nearly all of them didn’t have feeds which triples the work the server tries to do.

When there’s a thousand comments a minute coming in, well, the server decided to give up and sulk in the corner. It did this 3 times before I managed to put some caching in the API so it sends back the last result if a new request is made within the cache time. problem solved! ….. not quite. It was working really well but only for registered members.

The way the API did it was see the URL being requested and on what page. I get the member number from the URL and search the db for that member and send back their cached result. Thing is, I forgot about non members! so it was searching for a non member id of -1 and sending back the result from whichever non member commented last when a new comment from a non member gets made.

It was first brought to my attention by @nodinsnest

Why are you linking to someone elses blog?

Why are you linking to someone elses blog?

And then… by @brandyellen

Is @commentluv messed up today?!

Is @commentluv messed up today?!

And…  @ThetaMom

Is comment luv hacked by a spammer today?

Is comment luv hacked by a spammer today?

Luckily, because I’m a twitter freak with it open on every device I use, I was notified very early that it was happening and was able to fix it pretty quickly..

Commentluv should be fixed now. can you try it?

Commentluv should be fixed now. can you try it?

It’s all working now and I am happy to say that my changes means the ComLuv server has stayed up for the whole week and has around 2/3 less cpu usage. Commentluv for all! (except for a few who were commenting during the change)

hesham_zebida Good to see that you are interacting with feedback by yourself and paying full attention to everyone who contact you, I am sure this is not an easy job! I have a few related questions to ask you, Is CommentLuv taking away the love?

andy_baileyNot at all!

I was just making sure spammers don’t take away everyone’s luv

hesham_zebidaWell, spammers are everywhere and it’s hard sometimes to deal with their attacks, I hope you are ready always for them. One more important question Andy, is CommentLuv taking advantage of our blogs?

andy_baileyIt’s not in my mission statement. That’s more like ‘write code write code WRITE CODE!’

Sometimes the code I write has unexpected results which were never intended but experiencing that and fixing them is how software gets improved and updated. (especially mine! lol, I’m a self taught coder so my mistakes sometimes teach me more than if everything goes right first time)

hesham_zebidaIs CommentLuv Making any Money from your blog? or selling premium features and other options that you provide to make money from?

andy_baileyNope. not yet.

Every month the server, management fees, premium features and Amazon S3 bandwidth cost me money.

Real money from my pocket!!

hesham_zebidaI see! it’s a project with high expenses, Is CommentLuv selling ad links for advertisers to show instead of the original links in the comments?

andy_baileyI have no monetization plans for peoples links. The whole point of the plugin is to provide links to the comment authors site so everyone else can see what they write about. If the link wasn’t theirs, it’d be just another kontera type link which would need a squillion clicks before it made any money and no one would click anyone’s links if they thought they might be ads.

Hope this clears things up, the screen shots of the links on the Viet site show dates and times similar to the tweets notifying me about it so I think it’s safe to say that they were both talking about the same thing.

One more thing, the cache. It saves your last post for 24 hours if you’re a non member so if people aren’t seeing their very latest post they need to check the pull down box to see when CommentLuv api renews it.

As a registered member, your cache reduces to 1 hour and you get 10 posts from your site to choose from. Plus, you get to buy additional urls and default links if you’re a registered member.

hesham_zebidaI understand now it depends on the system cash and time the feed takes to be updated, now I see another importance for registering our blogs to ComentLuv,  this makes a lot of sense. Another important question, can someone exploited CommentLuv server and override the links?

andy_baileyOnly javascript stored on the same server as the blog would have any potential to hijack the links and that would have to be installed by the blog owner and have to be written specifically to modify the CommentLuv script. I wont give details of course :)

hesham_zebidaLOL! of course! OK, here is my last question Andy, what is the meaning of “bad juju just happened” message? it happen sometimes while someone trying to add a comment to a CommenLuv enabled blog!

andy_baileyBad juju happens when the URL being requested results in a feed error 3 times. The server was dealing with nearly half a million error or non existent feeds a week and I had to put in the bad juju bit to keep the server alive. It’s very simple to fix, just visit Comluv unpan URL page and enter your site URL to clear the juju.

If you’re a registered member, you can specify your exact feed url so it will help to prevent this from happening.

hesham_zebidaThank you a lot Andy for your time, this should clear things for everybody so far! And now we know why someone is getting a bad juju and how to clear the juju :)

Thank you for reading everybody, Follow Andy on Twitter, and tell him about anything you might experience with CommentLuv because feedback is so very important to him as a project owner even more than to you, and this will help him to solve problems faster and support this great plugin, so Don’t forget to follow Andy on Twitter @CommentLuv and us @FamousBloggers to keep updated and and be in touch.

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1 JamestheJust from Elance @
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August 25, 2010 at 3:35 pm

Great post – and yes, ComLuv is worth the hype. Definitely a great way to build an online presence, get real human traffic and be picked up by the spiders.

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2 Bob from Marketing Services (1 comments) August 25, 2010 at 8:47 am

commentluv is great it helps us get the backlinks we need in order for our website to get more traffic, and it helps increase the page rank

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3 71mm0 from BLoG kiTa @
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July 13, 2010 at 9:56 am

Great post are shared here for starting online business. It would be beneficial for them who are thinking of doing online business.

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4 Glenn Torres from Mortgage Refinancing (2 comments) July 4, 2010 at 3:31 pm

Good info. I appreciate your post a lot. It tells me that CommentLuv is a real, living, community and not just a lot of comments flying back and forth. And I love that it’s being actively developed. Sometimes, we just tend to not notice in the midst of all the work we have to do. Thanks.

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5 Eseotips @
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June 23, 2010 at 10:53 pm

I like Commentluv so much. Its will get more traffic for my site .

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6 Joel (2 comments) June 12, 2010 at 2:43 am

Nice post Hesham, it’s interesting learning about these problems that other people have encountered with comment luv. I have never encountered any of these problems myself. Comment luv is an awesome way to get more traffic to your blog too.

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7 CJ from Learn Affiliate Marketing @
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May 12, 2010 at 10:29 pm

First of all, really well designed blog! Secondly, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with CommentLuv, I think it helps prevents blogs from looking spammy.

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8 Hesham @
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May 12, 2010 at 10:33 pm

Actually , this is a good point! @CommentLuv reducing spam because it give another option for spammers to enhance their attitude on blogs ;)

Thanks for the complement!

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9 CJ from Learn Affiliate Marketing @
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May 13, 2010 at 8:58 am

No problem man!

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10 mamyaw (1 comments) May 6, 2010 at 3:35 pm

that’s interesting. would want to see and hear more from you.

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11 Hesham @
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May 6, 2010 at 3:49 pm

Glad you like it!

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12 Hecky from Logo Design (1 comments) March 16, 2010 at 12:42 pm

Commentluv is amazing, don’t diss!

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13 Hesham @
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May 6, 2010 at 3:49 pm

sure it is! I wished you will say something new!

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14 Cah Ndeso @
(1 comments)
March 3, 2010 at 11:20 pm

Interesting information. Thank you very much. Now I know why yesterday I often comluv error. And now I have comluv back to normal.

Greetings success of Indonesia
Cah Ndeso´s last blog ..Cara Submit XML ke Search Engine My ComLuv Profile

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15 Hesham @
(2694 comments)
May 6, 2010 at 3:50 pm

Glad you know how to solve it now!

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16 Gautam Hans @
(18 comments)
March 1, 2010 at 8:14 am

I like comment luv, i have faced a number of problems with it, mainly when it didn’t show up the link.But otherwise, it has worked fine fr me :)
Gautam Hans´s last blog ..The Art of Commenting My ComLuv Profile

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17 NpXp @
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March 20, 2010 at 5:16 am

Same here there has been errors and such but never something like other website links. Commentluv is a very good plugin for Wordpress blogs.
NpXp´s last blog ..5 Awesome Free Black Wordpress Themes For Your Blog My ComLuv Profile

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18 Joe in San Diego from San Diego Mortgage Loan @
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February 23, 2010 at 11:45 pm

I’ve got nothing but good things to say about comment luv. I guess its time for me to check the keyword plugin that you are using. seems cool.
Joe in San Diego@San Diego Mortgage Loan´s last blog ..Three Big Reasons to Buy in San Diego NOW! My ComLuv Profile

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19 Dak Wan @
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February 3, 2010 at 4:04 pm

Yup! I myself can attest of being a victim albeit Comluv only show my 2nd latest post, until I decided to register with Comluv today.
Dak Wan´s last blog ..2 in 1 post : Gabungan Contest dan Tag! My ComLuv Profile

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20 TheInfoPreneur @
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February 2, 2010 at 5:46 am

Awesome post this, the title drew me right in, why?

Because I know how important commentluv is for my site. It’s vital really. I think we can see commentluv being bought out very soon.

Awesome stuff brother
TheInfoPreneur´s last blog ..The Day My Wife Almost Died My ComLuv Profile

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21 Anne from b6s.net @
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February 2, 2010 at 5:29 am

I really love Comluv. I can see how it can be resource intensive at this phase. I bought ten credits over there to support Comluv. I hope Andy can make it profitable.
Anne @ b6s.net´s last blog ..Managing the Content on Multiple Blogs My ComLuv Profile

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22 Dana from Blogging Update @
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February 2, 2010 at 1:07 am

Oh, now i understand why my comment luv link do not show my newest post back then. It always show my old post. Thanks for bring this explanation hesham.
Dana @ Blogging Update´s last blog ..Easy Way to Put Social Media Button in Blog My ComLuv Profile

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23 Alison Moore Smith @
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February 1, 2010 at 9:27 pm

Very interesting stuff, Hesham. And kudos to you for going to the source instead of just repeating rumors. I’m sure Andy appreciates that even more than we do.
Alison Moore Smith´s last blog ..7 Things You Must Avoid When Choosing Your Wordpress Theme My ComLuv Profile

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24 Tom from Money Conversion @
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February 1, 2010 at 8:00 pm

I have not noticed anything like this happenig with my comments, but definitely something I think we all need to keep our eye on!

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25 Simon @
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February 1, 2010 at 4:57 pm

A very interesting post. I’ve been seeing commentluv on more and more blogs which i have been visiting lately. Well this could be because I’ve been reading more, but before the last couple of week, I haven’t really seen the plugin.

Glad to hear hes not making money out of people unknowingly. But I think it could work if people got an percentage as sales on their site.

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